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PostSubject: regarding the number of forums   Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:48 pm

my idea is:

do away with requests, ffxi info, one of the lounges, and announcements and news forums

events can stay because it is kool

yoppp

edit: also my idea is .. we could have an archive forum where older or stupid threads that nobody cares about are preserved for posterity. once there, epic threads could be stickied.
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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:58 pm

Hurm.

I think leave it as it for the time-being, early days and whatnot. Let the seperate bloom or wilt as they will and in a month or two have a rejiggle based on how the forum is being used.

I do like the archive thread idea. That can have a second helping of Galkalove.

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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:52 pm

i would here like to call the jury's attention to mr doot's signature-

for surely you would, ladies and gentlemen called here to decide fairly,

apon weighing the plaintiff's case, agree

that indeed, mr doot's character informs his too meek to be worthwhile argument

that what is clearly in the interest of the community

should not come first.

indeed, as this forum is supplementary to a public messaging system,

certain liberties should be taken to order it conscientiously while

preserving the ease and practicality - if not the uniquity and aesthetic-

of the exclusive and specialized system.

while your method of finding what you are interested in may vary,

i think we can agree that we don't really need requests forums. what cannot be requested in real time- and for that matter, who ever has requests? the ffxi info forum is redundant, because it's silly to report what could be reported for you by the LS community site, or FFXIAH (although the accomplishments thread is a fine idea.).. and the ffxi lounge is also if only because ffxiclopedia et al is where much serious discussion pertaining the game should occur. announcements and news belong to sticky threads, or on the portal (although what announcement isn't "i am quitting ffxi/i died irl"?). and the events forum is mod-only, so we can't rsvp.. so i couldn't sign up to be one of the hiders in doot's CRAPP. Crying or Very sad for the sake of simplicity, it'd be nice to have a official-looking and tidy record with a clean commentary of our LS events, but then again, who cares. finally, even though mr doot here has swelled our membership to 5% of Asura, it will likely remain a small forum and thus doesn't need a whole lot generally in the way of organization or regulation- the forum ideal is a bulletin board you can use dry erase markers on and maybe even draw swear words and pictures of butts and stuff, after all.



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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:54 pm

I agree with doot's case upon letting it sit as is. Why bother changing around the whole forum if half the LS wont use it anyways. By now im sure most are familiar on where things are and what threads are good or worthless. That be me 2bits, and i quit using LSCom and such
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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:16 am

I'm sorry, I like a little more organization to just delete it

And if it did get more active, then it'd be one big mess of threads, the subforums help spread and organize things


and about the info thread, yeah I know, but not everyone uses the lS community, and I want some sort of way of quantifying what people want, in one place (hitting 20 links to figure out who's where is a lot harder than surfing down one page of posts)

And about your reply... that was uncalled for claiming that Dee's isn't worthwhile to be listened to.

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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:32 am

I thought Charly's reply was pretty well put. pirat

Funny and comprehensive. I don't agree with most of it - but what a dull predictable place a requests area would be if we all agreed, hm?

And for what it's worth.. come on: I wear my Too Meek To Be Worthwhile barcode openly. I would like to request that Witness C be brought forth to further enlarge upon this point:


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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:43 am

sidi just doesn't like me, basically.

i can enlarge apon my points thusly: you don't need yr own forum to put yr crafting guide that belongs elsewhere, no one cares what jobs you have or what missions you've done (and lscom is a highly superior tool for those interested in that kind of thing), nobody has requests about forums and mods if there aren't too many or too little of either, and if it becomes more active, let it, because there's no better way to suss out what is no longer interesting than looking- as you said sidi- at one scrollable page.

it's a good idea.
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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:34 am

Meh, still not agreeing with your points Charlysan.

The Information thread's nice; agreed, it's possibly not the place for crafting guides as suggested in the thread description, but I do like updating the achievement list with things that we as a LS achieve with each other, I'm looking forward to it getting longer and longer and saying that no one cares what jobs you have or what missions you've done is just plain old fashioned wrong - that sort of info can be invaluable if you're looking to get help with a mission, get an item crafted, working out LS events. I do agree that LScom is a far better tool for this, but it's had some poor press recently and I can understand why some would be apprehensive about using it (though I personally feel perfectly safe doing so).

The issue as it stands is simple: not many in the LS are actively using these forums right now - something I'm still hoping will change. And there's a perfectly reasonable reason that not many are actively using them: the forums are only two weeks' old! Of course it looks kinda thread-bare at the moment with seperate sections - but these boards are only going to travel in one direction and that direction is the direction of more fatter. They'll fill up. More threads will be posted. I hope (and believe) that more and more LS members will make use of them and enjoy them for both sensibleness and silliness.

I like the sections. I can see that right now they aren't very busy but that will change. And anyway, organised sections make the forum more... forummy! No?

Not to mention the important factor of: Sidi's word is as the Gods' as far as decisions are concerned. She's already stated that she likes the organised approach. Whilst I wouldn't presume to say that your idea isn't 'good', that doesn't mean that the organised approach isn't 'good' also. Heck, it's hardly like it's revolutionary or dangerously radical. The current forum structure is pretty standard in The Great Book Of Forum Structures. It works. It will continue to work. It's all good bay-bee.

I shall rest my case with this:









cyclops

I think that sums up my thoughts on the matter quite adequately.

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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:50 am

you didn't make any points. you made points against yrself. why did you type!!
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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:04 pm

I made points at your points. And they were sharp! And.. pointy!


You're just reeling from the alphabetic thrashing I gave you.

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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:19 pm

you didn't even read my points, you were just waiting to make your own sinister anti-points!

when i see you on IM i am going to NUDGE you into submission!
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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:26 pm

I referenced and replied upon every point that you made. Ya great foo'.

Though I don't deny that I enjoyed making my sinister anti-points to counter your non-convincing explainy-points.

HA!

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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:44 pm

not only are you wrong about defaulting in any of yr directions but there is not one direction this forum or it's LS should be going that isn't 'better'- fatter is yucky.. we don't need spam.. we would expect decent posters with decent posts.. the fewer and better, the better. just because a forum has categories doesn't mean we need them. there are certain things like this that should be considered (or not considered) before even making a forum, so it's age is irrelevant.

if you had read my posts you'd know i like the achievement list and do not believe it warrants a forum for example, but indeed think events may-
for i do not respect forummy (because the internet is gay) .. like i respect the Forum! let it reign for a thousand years!
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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:02 pm

'Fatter' doesn't have to equate to 'spam'!

Just like 'hairy' doesn't have to equate to 'gorilla'!

Doooo yoooou seeeeeeeeeee?

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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:09 pm

If I might act as something of a neutral fourth party here, I'd like to say that the number of forums is irrelevant, be there a single, master forum or several, variously themed forums. As Charlie said, it's the quality of the posts and of the posters that matters.

Even so, as it stands now, I don't think we can determine whether a certain forum is extraneous or necessary the number of active users is too low for us to really pass judgment. Can't we sit on the forum for a while, watch traffic and posting habits, and then decide, from there, how best either to consolidate or to separate the forum?

Also, what seems unnecessary to one person might not seem so to another. Personally, I don't feel the need to be informed every time a player levels up (because, honestly, it takes all of five minutes to ding DRK3/WAR1), but most people tend to like letting the LS know, so I live with it. Likewise, I don't think the present state of our forums threatens their uniquity nor their aesthetics; I'm sure we can all live with this. But I also don't think streamlining could hurt. I just think we need more time to figure things out.
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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:17 pm

Av, you need to make at least one attempt at humour per post!


That said, you make several very good points.

You eloquent bastard you!

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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:20 pm

What? My whole post was a joke. Why don't you get a sense of humor? God. People are so serious.
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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:25 pm

affraid AAAAAAGGHHHH!!!

*head explodes*

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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:28 pm



edit: omg, avgustin posted. i agree with him that congratulations spam = do not want. what av may or may not know is that doot is completely to blame for our membership, and is probably too nice to ever kick anyone who isn't as naughty as i am. but i digress because.. it's good to have mad people. half of them go away anyways and the kool kids stay. people meet other people and possibly have cyber sex in buburimu peninsula. wicked kool kids come here, where they need not have to put their letters in a number of labelled chutes. yes yes ya'll!


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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:40 pm



EDIT: dammit! you ninja-editter!

and where'd that picture go!? now my wtfbaby doesn't make any sense! or rather it makes less sense! than the no-sense it originally made!

put it back!

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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:59 pm

raa, geocities haxxxxxxx. not over the hourly limit.. pah.
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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:58 pm

What? People have cyber sex in Buburimu?

Can somebody say LS event with me?
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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:29 pm


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PostSubject: Re: regarding the number of forums   Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:14 pm

I dun get it Sad
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